Seeking best odds for football. considering bet365, pinnacle or maybe one of asian books

@smiach pinnacle focuses on main markets (match result, totals, handicaps). they don't have as many props as bet365. so if you're prop bettor bet365 has more variety. if you're betting main markets pinnacle has better prices. tbh depends what you're betting
 
Newbie said:
that difference a bit sus i mean how do bookies make money if pinnacle has such low margins? fr sounds too good to be true
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@x@nter lightly touched that topic. You see Pinnacle makes money through volume not margin. They offer low margins (2-3%) but accept huge bet sizes from sharp bettors. They use that sharp action to set accurate lines, then offer slightly worse prices to recreational bettors. As I see it:
  • Bet365 model: high margins (5-7%), limit winners, target recreational losers.
  • Pinnacle model: low margins (2-3%), accept all action, make profit on volume.
So both profitable just different approaches
 
asian books also have better liquidity on asian handicap markets if that's your thing. bet365 asian handicaps have wider margins than their standard markets. for serious football betting asian handicaps at sbobet will throw out bet365 any day
 
aviator said:
Where's this loser shit comes from guys?? even if you're betting for fun why wouldn't you want better odds? Convenience isn't worth 3-4% worse prices anyway
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okok got it probably should care more about getting best odds. just used to bet365 and cant be arsed setting up new accounts
but yeah if im throwing away 3-4% for no reason thats bit stupid 😅
 
also pinnacle's odds move slower than bet365. if you're trying to get value on early markets pinnacle lines are sharper from the start. bet365 puts up soft lines and adjusts after getting hit. pinnacle opens closer to true odds. matters if you're trying to beat closing line value
 
x@nter said:
also pinnacle's odds move slower than bet365. if you're trying to get value on early markets pinnacle lines are sharper from the start. bet365 puts up soft lines and adjusts after getting hit. pinnacle opens closer to true odds. matters if you're trying to beat closing line value
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this one is a bit complicated for me 😅😅
 
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