am i goin crazy or WH always give worse odds?

Stalker22

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been comparing william hill vs bet365 for past few weeks and seeing consistent pattern. just checked arsenal vs city - wh showing 1.88 for arsenal while bet365 has 2.05 same match. thats not first time either, been noticing this across multiple games for weeks now. liverpool was 1.31 vs 1.42, united games showing similar gaps. anyone else seeing this or am i cherry picking?
 
nah mate you're chatting bollocks. been using hills for 15 years never had problems. maybe you're looking at different markets or something. their odds been fine for me. won £340 last month on football
 
nonono said:
nah mate you're chatting bollocks. been using hills for 15 years never had problems. maybe you're looking at different markets or something. their odds been fine for me. won £340 last month on football
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emmm you know that doesnt mean the odds werent worse right? you simply could have won more elsewhere. my bf switched from wh to bet365 and swears the difference is massive
 
Have to agree with the lad here. Noticed this myself when comparing books. WH consistently shorter odds than most others, not just bet365. Proper annoying when you've been loyal customer for years and they're taking the piss with worse prices 😒
 
Patrick777 said:
Have to agree with the lad here. Noticed this myself when comparing books. WH consistently shorter odds than most others, not just bet365. Proper annoying when you've been loyal customer for years and they're taking the piss with worse prices 😒
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@Patrick777 taking the piss? they're a business mate not a charity. if you dont like it use someone else
least wh pay out when you win unlike some dodgy online sites
 
This pattern was already documented back in Dec 2023. WH averaged 7.75% higher overround compared to bet365's 5.72% across Premier League markets. The Arsenal example Stalker22 mentioned (1.88 vs 2.05) represents roughly £17 difference in profit on £100 stake. Seems like pattern has persisted into 2025.
 
The reality is that William Hill operates legacy infrastructure with massive overheads from their high street presence. They simply cannot compete on price with lean online operators like bet365. It's not malicious - it's basic economics. Different business models produce different pricing structures.
 
firstleague said:
The reality is that William Hill operates legacy infrastructure with massive overheads from their high street presence. They simply cannot compete on price with lean online operators like bet365. It's not malicious - it's basic economics. Different business models produce different pricing structures.
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@firstleague fair enough but some of us prefer dealing with proper british company thats been around forever instead of these newer online outfits and customer service actually exists when you need it
 
just hold on i checked myself those odds stalker mentioned are actually true so thats like 17 pounds difference on a hundred pound bet if they win. how is that not massive?
 
@jerome_tash alright alright i get it. maybe ill check other sites before placing big bets. still think wh more reliable overall but cant argue with all of u guys
 
lads market inefficiencies like this persist because customer switching costs perceived as high. most punters stick with familiar brand rather than optimize for best odds. leaving money on table but thats their choice i guess
 
nonono said:
@jerome_tash alright alright i get it. maybe ill check other sites before placing big bets. still think wh more reliable overall but cant argue with all of u guys
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cheers mate, wasnt trying to slag off wh just pointing out what seemed obvious pattern once you start looking so i gonna keep using multiple books and taking best prices available
else is up to you
 
peak.a.kick said:
its all interesting but worth noting odds change constantly throughout day. what stalker22 seeing might just be timing difference between when he checks each site
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@peak.a.kick possible but structural margin differences between operators remain consistent regardless of timing. if wh consistently 1-2% higher overround, timing wont fix that fundamental gap
 
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