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  1. BillThornes

    my fave hop shut friday. been there since before i was born

    so french racing is a product and kempton is a culture..right
  2. BillThornes

    my fave hop shut friday. been there since before i was born

    coming back to is the horse racing exemption. why does that get protected. genuinely explain it to me because i cannot come up with a reason that isn't just who knows who. a bloke losing his wages on the 2:40 at kempton is doing the same thing as a bloke losing it on a slot, the only difference...
  3. BillThornes

    my fave hop shut friday. been there since before i was born

    ok yeah 40% FORTY!! so i put a tenner in and they take four quid off the top before i've even spun anything and this is the same lot who spent two years telling us it was all about protecting vulnerable people. affordability checks, bank statements, prove you can afford it. now suddenly they've...
  4. BillThornes

    betfred fined 900k for NOT stopping someone losing 18 grand in a day. so which is it then

    closing thought and then im leaving it. i've argued for two years that the checks are the problem. after reading this properly i think the problem is they've built something that watches everybody and protects nobody. you get the friction of being monitored and none of the benefit of anyone...
  5. BillThornes

    betfred fined 900k for NOT stopping someone losing 18 grand in a day. so which is it then

    @5.o.2 well thats the bit thats been nagging at me and you put it better than i could. i keep arguin about whether they should be allowed to look. they've been looking the whole time. the argument is only ever about what they do with it. which makes a fair bit of what i've been saying for two...
  6. BillThornes

    betfred fined 900k for NOT stopping someone losing 18 grand in a day. so which is it then

    yeah ok thats actually helpful. one is checking everyone who crosses a number, other is ignoring the people your own system is screaming about. still feels like the same instinct behind both tho. build a system, dont resource it, tick the box
  7. BillThornes

    betfred fined 900k for NOT stopping someone losing 18 grand in a day. so which is it then

    right so this has been nagging at me since it came out end of last month and im posting it because i genuinely don't know what i think anymore. as you might heard commission announced petfre gibraltar paying £900,000 over social responsibility failures. the headline bit: a customer got flagged...
  8. BillThornes

    bet365 casino feeling noticeably worse in 2026 - is it just me or did something actually change???

    100% mate. it used to just work and you didn't have to understand the economics of it to enjoy it. now apparently you do going to try a couple of sessions on betway and betfair this week and see if the product difference is actually noticeable or if it's all just the same compressed industry
  9. BillThornes

    bet365 casino feeling noticeably worse in 2026 - is it just me or did something actually change???

    so the worse sessions since april aren't variance. the game literally changed and i noticed it without knowing that's what i was noticing and the government explicitly expected this to happen?
  10. BillThornes

    bet365 casino feeling noticeably worse in 2026 - is it just me or did something actually change???

    @slotking by paused product launches - what kind of products are we talking? new game types? live casino expansion? or else?
  11. BillThornes

    bet365 casino feeling noticeably worse in 2026 - is it just me or did something actually change???

    four year bet365 customer. never really had complaints. decent platform, decent game selection, always paid out without fuss. but since the start of this year something feels off. like welcome offer situation first: they've switched to the "10 days of free spins" thing where you deposit a tenner...
  12. BillThornes

    these popups has genuinely gotten out of hnd

    if there is i haven't found it. wich is probably part of the problem. we accept it and grumble and nothing changes
  13. BillThornes

    these popups has genuinely gotten out of hnd

    none of that makes thes popups less insulting
  14. BillThornes

    these popups has genuinely gotten out of hnd

    wait so the checks are being avoided by the people they''re meant to catch and applied to the people they 're not meant for
  15. BillThornes

    these popups has genuinely gotten out of hnd

    but i dont WANT to go offshore. jeez i just want toplay on a legal site with proper licence without being treated like a suspect for depositing forty quid
  16. BillThornes

    these popups has genuinely gotten out of hnd

    exactly. and i genuinely get that they have to do something about real problem gambling. but im a 25 year old who hasn't touched the site in three weeks depositing forty pounds. who is this actually helping
  17. BillThornes

    these popups has genuinely gotten out of hnd

    ok so. logged into bet365 last night for the first time in like three weeks. deposited £40. before i even got to pick a game i got a popup asking if my gambling is "in balance with other life priorities" hadn't placed a bet yet hadn't been on the site in three weeks £40 this is where we are now
  18. BillThornes

    betmgm/drafkings/fanduel which one is better?? why

    for lads this whole limiting thing sounds unreal. our bookies limit winners too but not as agressive as what you lot describing
  19. BillThornes

    betmgm/drafkings/fanduel which one is better?? why

    when i was vegas couple years back tried betmgm app proper nightmare getting it to recognize location. ended up using caesars which worked fine
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