limited to £3.47 max at bet365 sports after three good months, is this even legal??

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so this is grim. been doing well on sports betting at bet365 the last few months. nothing extreme, consistent positive results, mostly premier league and tennis. logged in yesterday to place a £20 on a match. maximum allowed stake: £3.47.
been a customer for four years. no complaints upheld against me. no bonus abuse. just been picking well.

genuinely asking what the legal position is here, what triggers it, and whether there's any route back once it's happened.
 
happens to anyone who produces consistently positive results over a meaningful sample. this is the point most people miss: sportsbooks are not in the business of taking bets from people who beat them. they're entertainment products that happen to use odds. recreational bettors are the entire revenue model. once you threaten that model by winning with regularity you become a liability not a customer.
spent years in professional sport. understood immediately when i started betting seriously that profitable players get removed from markets. it's structural, not personal.
 
they check closing line value. if you consistently beat the closing line they flag you. nothing to do with actual PnL. you can be net negative on the account and still get limited if your bet selection consistently beats their final prices
 
DagaW said:
they check closing line value. if you consistently beat the closing line they flag you. nothing to do with actual PnL. you can be net negative on the account and still get limited if your bet selection consistently beats their final prices
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is there any way to slow it down once you've already been flagged
 
parlays. markets you don't value. let yourself be wrong sometimes deliberately. or betfair exchange. no limits. you bet against other players
 
pretty accurate @DagaW. CLV is the primary sharpness indicator because actual outcomes are too noisy over short samples. someone who consistently closes above the market is identified as informed money regardless of whether they're up or down on the account.
the painful irony is that understanding value well enough to beat closing lines is exactly what gets you removed from the only markets where that skill matters.
 
this is genuinely insane to me. they advertise like anyone can win big and then the second u actually do they cut u down to 3 quid. imagine if a poker room banned u for running good
 
Timmy said:
this is genuinely insane to me. they advertise like anyone can win big and then the second u actually do they cut u down to 3 quid. imagine if a poker room banned u for running good
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poker rooms do back off and exclude advantage players. but your point stands. there's something structurally dishonest about a product that sells winning as its entire proposition and then removes the mechanism for winning once you demonstrate it.
 
NY proposed a fair play act this year specifically targeting this. would bar licensed sportsbooks from limiting based on performance rather than responsible gambling reasons. the industry fought it hard because without any limiting ability sharp and arbitrage money would genuinely destroy margins in certain markets. legitimately difficult regulatory problem even if the current outcome for winners is terrible
 
New York is the only US jurisdiction that's attempted it formally. The practical challenge is that without limiting ability books would either price markets so conservatively that value disappears or stop offering certain markets entirely. Pinnacle operates without limiting by welcoming sharp money and adjusting lines accordingly rather than adjusting their customer list. Most books aren't structured to operate that way.
 
can i just say for the record that getting limited to £3 is a problem i have never personally experienced because i have never won enough to be identified as a threat to anyone. this whole thread is making me feel genuinely strange about my situation 😅
 
the thing that rarely gets acknowledged is that limiting sharp bettors makes the markets worse for everyone. informed money keeps lines accurate. remove it and recreational bettors bet into lazier pricing. the "protecting recreational bettors by removing sharps" framing is convenient fiction.
 
Got limited on Draftkings to $12max on anything meaningful last year after running hot for like six weeks. Tried EVERYTHING man. Three months of deliberately bad parlays, random garbage markets, betting things i literally had no opinion on just to look like a square. nothing moved. Account is completely dead for serious money and the worst part? no email, no reason, no appeal, no transparency on what triggered it. Just woke up one day, tried to place a bet, and thats what i had. TWELVE DOLLARS. for a guy who was dropping thousands
 
anyway practical approach most serious bettors use is spreading across as many books as possible from the start. bet365 should be one of ten or twelve accounts not one of two. by the time they flag you the idea is you've already moved most action elsewhere and you're not depending on that account for anything meaningful
 
Worth noting that most books prohibit multiple accounts from the same individual in their terms of service. Not saying don't do it - nearly everyone does and enforcement is inconsistent - but it's worth being aware that the strategy @shadow123 describes technically puts you in breach of account agreements at most operators.
 
shadow123 said:
anyway practical approach most serious bettors use is spreading across as many books as possible from the start. bet365 should be one of ten or twelve accounts not one of two. by the time they flag you the idea is you've already moved most action elsewhere and you're not depending on that account for anything meaningful
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pretty useful, thank you. hadn't consdered how badly ive concentrated everything
 
betfair exchange. no limits. house takes commission on matched bets. they dont care if you win. liquidity on niche markets is thin. main lines on major fixtures are fine
 
wait if exchanges have no limits why doesn't everyone just use those - sounds like prop solution no??
 
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