arsenal vs psg - who are you backing and what are you putting on it

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right then. week to go. psg in budapest. gonna be honest with you lot ive not felt like this about a football match in years
not even an arsenal fan you all know that but after 22 years without a league and now this. something feels different. already put £40 on arsenal to win it at 2.20. probably stupid. probably sentimental. dont care honestl
what are you all doing. who are you backing and what odds did you get
 
already in. £3k on PSG ML at 1.68. looked at the numbers. looked at what they did to chelsea liverpool and bayern. that is not a team you bet against mate. arsenal defense is great but psg score goals for breakfast
 
arsenal all day bro ngl 💀 psg's league stage was trash they were 11th and arsenal was perfect. this is our year fr
 
running the numbers properly before committing.

Arsenal: 8-0-0 league phase. 6 goals conceded across 14 matches total. best defensive record in the competition by distance. Saliba and Gabriel have been extraordinary. Gyokeres and Saka give them the transition threat.

PSG: 4-2-2 in league phase, 11th. then completely transformed in the knockouts. 6 knockout matches with that goal difference is impressive but it's still 6 matches. small sample.

the market has PSG at 60% implied. Opta models apparently have it closer to 50/50. Arsenal at 2.20 is genuinely interesting if you trust the defensive structure. taking Arsenal +1 on Asian handicap at around 1.87 rather than outright
 
PSG's knockout numbers are extraordinary but their most credible test was Bayern in the semi and it took 6-5 on aggregate to resolve. Chelsea and Liverpool both conceded heavily but neither of those ties was a simple demolition job in the way it looks on paper - Chelsea scored twice in Paris, Liverpool found a way to keep it tight for stretches. Arsenal's structure is a genuinely different challenge.
The efficient market price for PSG should probably be around 1.70. 1.65 is slightly short. Arsenal at 2.20 isn't value precisely but it's not the terrible bet sentiment-based punters assume it is.
Under 2.5 goals at around 2.10 is where I'd put meaningful money. Arsenal concede less than half a goal per match across the whole tournament. Even PSG will find that difficult over 90 minutes.
 
Timmy said:
bill thats actually a banger take ngl. arsenal basically play chess, psg play street fighter. when chess plays street fighter someone always ends up going 0-0 for 70 mins then someone scores an og
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That analogy is not how I would have put it. But the directional logic is roughly correct.
 
been talking about nothing else at the pub all week. lads are split but most are backing arsenal out of pure sentiment. 22 years without a league and now this. if they do the double this is going into the history books properly
backed them at 2.15 last week before the odds tightened. small enough, more for the craic than anything
 
worth noting the market moved significantly after arsenal won the EPL. arsenal were 2.50+ before the bournemouth result. sentiment money from neutrals backing the fairytale compressed them to 2.10-2.20 within 48 hours. that's not the market getting smarter that's emotional money flowing in. PSG's implied probability hasn't changed much. arsenal's has improved on paper purely because of narrative
 
morgan_c said:
worth noting the market moved significantly after arsenal won the EPL. arsenal were 2.50+ before the bournemouth result. sentiment money from neutrals backing the fairytale compressed them to 2.10-2.20 within 48 hours. that's not the market getting smarter that's emotional money flowing in. PSG's implied probability hasn't changed much. arsenal's has improved on paper purely because of narrative
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thats why i'm being careful. everyone wants arsenal to win including me. but wanting them to win and it being a good bet are different things. waiting to see if there's any injury news before i commit to anything
 
Speaking from a professional background - the tactical matchup is genuinely fascinating. Arsenal will sit deep and absorb, then use Gyokeres' movement and Saka's directness to hurt PSG on the counter. That is a credible plan against anyone.

The question is whether Kvaratskhelia and Dembele in the same front line can break a back four that has barely been touched all tournament. On form? Probably yes eventually. Over 90 minutes? Not certain.

I have seen finals where the defensive side won 1-0 with a set piece and it wasn't a surprise in hindsight. I have also seen finals where the attacking side ran riot from the 30th minute. Both outcomes are genuinely possible here.

Personally I am taking Arsenal to win in 90 minutes at around 3.10. If it goes to extra time I lose but I can live with that.
 
ok look i know i said i was going to be more careful this week. i know that. but i have $150 on arsenal to win the thing outright and ive already placed it and i dont regret it because if arsenal do the double this season it would be the most beautiful thing that has ever happened in football and i want to be part of it financialy somehow. also psg knocked arsenal out last year and i genuinely cannot bet against them right now even if the value says PSG
 
lads psg did chelsea 8-2 on aggregate. i know. but arsenal beat atletico 4-0 in the group stage. then leverkusen in the last 16. then sporting in the quarters. then atletico again in the semis. they are not a side that got here by accident and saliba and gabriel are the best centre back partnership in europe right now
 
arsenal have also not faced anyone like dembele and kvaratskhelia in the same front line
 
DagaW said:
arsenal have also not faced anyone like dembele and kvaratskhelia in the same front line
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ok that does sound genuinely scary on paper i admit it 💀 but arteta will have a plan. he always has a plan man
 
already dropped $2k on arsenal at 2.18 before odds moved. if they do this it fuels my for a while. LETS RIDE. the league was just the warmup
 
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