these popups has genuinely gotten out of hnd

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ok so. logged into bet365 last night for the first time in like three weeks. deposited £40. before i even got to pick a game i got a popup asking if my gambling is "in balance with other life priorities"
hadn't placed a bet yet​
hadn't been on the site in three weeks​
£40​

this is where we are now
 
yup mate betfair did the same to me i just had lunch break at work, deposited a tenner, got something like "are you sure you want to be playing right now" on my own phone with my own money during my own lunch break. at this rate they'll want to know what i had for breakfast to continue lol
 
i actually stopped using two sites because of the popups. sounds dramatic but they stressed me out more than any loss did. felt watched the entire session
 
this is the point though. it's not about helping you. every time you click continue playing on those popups you're confirming a behavioral datapoint. session length, time of day, deposit frequency, stake size, all going somewhere. and once that infrastructure exists for gambling it exists for other applications. digital ID has been in the pipeline for years and the behavioral profiling architecture is already being built under player protection framing
 
there's a real tension here that both of you are partly right about. the regulations came in because actual harm was happening at scale. the problem is the implementation is blunt. it doesn't distinguish between someone three weeks clear depositing £40 and someone in real crisis. same popup, same friction, same intrusion for completely different situations
 
even setting aside the sinister angle, these systems ARE collecting detailed behavioral data. session timing, stake patterns, deposit velocity, all sitting in a database. government adjacent databases get breached constantly. nhs data, tax records. who has access to your detailed gambling behavioral profile when it goes wrong is a legitimate question
 
I think data collection is real and worth scrutinising under GDPR. But the practical problem right now though is that this friction is pushing recreational players toward unlicensed offshore sites with zero consumer protection. The cure is measurably accelerating the disease.
 
yup this is what happened to me i moved a chunk of my play offshore last year. no popups, no source of wealth requests, no cooling off periods. also no recourse if they close with my bslance but you weigh it up
 
but i dont WANT to go offshore. jeez i just want toplay on a legal site with proper licence without being treated like a suspect for depositing forty quid
 
my boyfriend got a source of wealth request from one of the bigger sites after a £200 withdrawal. damn three months of bank statements for two hundred quid
 
oh well guys need to went bout this shit i work nights at a distribution centre, finish at 6am, home by 7, wind dwn, log into mrq for an hour before sleep which for me is basically the same as 9pm for anyone else. got an email last week from their safer gambling team asking why i was playing between 5 and 6am and whether i wanted to discuss my patterns. i had to explain to a casino that i work nights. they said they would NOTE IT on my account. note it. like im a patient being observed. I DO NOT THINK I HAVE WORDS FOR THIS. i genuinely sat there rereading it twice thinking am i being serious right now
 
Affordability check system as currently designed fails at its own stated purpose, it catches recreational players at low thresholds while anyone motivated to avoid it just spreads play across multiple sites to stay under limits. People it's designed to protect aren't affected by it everyone else is...
 
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Affordability check system as currently designed fails at its own stated purpose, it catches recreational players at low thresholds while anyone motivated to avoid it just spreads play across multiple sites to stay under limits. People it's designed to protect aren't affected by it everyone else is...
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wait so the checks are being avoided by the people they''re meant to catch and applied to the people they 're not meant for
 
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